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[Reeze]

List games you think everyone should have played before they kicketh the bucketh. GO!

I'll start with... DUNGEON KEEPER 2!

[Bacon]

Here are some other titles:
Grim Fandango , Planescape: Torment , Fallout , Deus Ex , Hitman, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Should we have any special rules for this list? How to we handle series?

[ch40z]

If I had to pick just one..

Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn

[acme420]

peggle, bejeweled, doom2, quake 1, no one lives forever.

[JayRoe]

I suggest we divide the list into genres, RPG, FPS, etc.

Each game could have a score of playability back then and playability now.


Anyway, here are some more games: Ports of Call, Street Rod 2, Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem 3D, Transport Tycoon Deluxe, Earth 2160, Heroes of Annihilated Empires, Battlezone 2, Syndicate Wars.

[korso]

Ultima V Lazarus, Ultima VI (project from Team Archon), King of Dragon Pass, Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Past.

I suggest each one of us picks one favourite and make a more or less detailed review, with images, links, etc... What do you say?

[Grelot]

Anyway, here are some more games: Ports of Call, Street Rod 2, Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem 3D, Transport Tycoon Deluxe, Earth 2160, Heroes of Annihilated Empires, Battlezone 2, Syndicate Wars.

damn you.. you said everything i would've said..

[BadManiac]

Mine for now.

FPS
Doom - Playability back then: 10, playability now: 10
You owe it to yourself to have played this, simple as that.

RPG
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura - Playability back then 9, playability now: 8
Great RPG, Fallout, Baldurs Gate and Planescape Torment get all the mentions, this is just as good, but I think it has better atmosphere than either of the others.

[JayRoe]

As much as I love Doom and think it should be on the list, I couldn't rate it the same for past and present playability. There's just no way it feels as exciting as when I played it more than 15 years ago. It was a completely different experience back then.

Take Deus Ex. I'd say the playability is almost the same now as it was back then, cause it was the story that carried it and the story still ranks as one of the best stories ever. Doom on the other hand was elevated by an incredible level of immersion thanks to the stunning graphics it had at the time, but by todays standards it just falls flat.

It's still a game for the bucket list though, but for its impact on gaming history. Anyway, just my two cents.

[Bacon]

Im with JayRoe on this one. I think a bucket list should contain games that really stand up to the test of time. Im thinking there are many games that people should know about, but they could skip out on playing them. Dune 2 for example is a game people should know about. Westwood created a new genre while experimenting with the sequel to the adventuregame Dune. One should know Dune 2 came before Warcraft and C&C. Is it a great RTS today? No, not in the same way that total annihilation does. Should everyone have playe it before the die? No, not like I think everyone should play Age Of Empires, Battlezone, and Close combat.

[BadManiac]

As much as I love Doom and think it should be on the list, I couldn't rate it the same for past and present playability.

I couldn't agree less. In fact I could take that entire post and swap Doom and Deus Ex and it'd represent how I feel. Deus Ex was fantastic when it came out, it's almost completely unplayable by today's standards. Doom on the other hand does the same thing today it did then, it plays the same, and if it was released on a handheld or a phone now it wouldn't feel out of date at all.

This is the problem with lists like this and ratings. There's always going to be personal preference. I think the best we can do is agree on iconic, sometimes industry changing, titles that we all agree should be played, regardless of any rating system.

I also think the original post should be edited with the actual list, otherwise this thread is soon going to be very long and tricky to navigate to find the classics.

[Bacon]

One more question.

A game could have crappy SP, but amazing MP. How do we handle that? Today playing MP in some of the old games is pretty much impossible.


As for Doom Im gonna load it up again in a week or so to see if it stills plays well.

[JayRoe]

That's a good point. Quake was amazing in MP and I dedicated a year of my life to DM6.

[Logger]

I'll start with... DUNGEON KEEPER I!

Fixed.

You sellout bitch, Dungeon Keeper I deserves to be played more than DKII, DKI had a lot of bugs but Some guys have been working on something called 'KeeperFX' which changes a lot of shit to DKI one making it more stable and more balanced.
Unlike the unstable and almost-unrepairable DKII, fucking Peter.M! He ruined what Dungeon Keeper could have been!

For KeeperFX go here: http://www.keeperklan.com/forums/52-KeeperFX


Transport Tycoon, christ. That game. I daren't play it just for the fact that I'll get sucked into it for 5 hours straight.

[BadManiac]

I'm adding one to the list.

Turn based top down space trading and combat game/3D RTS/third person shooter/text adventure/arcade shooter
Space Rangers 2
Quite frankly you need to play this. It's one of the deepest most complex games ever created, it's all things to all men, all at once. It really is all those categories in one game, and it makes them work. Easily one of the most overlooked and under appreciated games ever made.